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My Allman Brothers 8/23/2005 Arts Center experience.
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ba ba booie
2005-08-28 18:33:38 UTC
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My Allman Brothers 8/23/2005
Arts Center experience in Homdel, NJ.



I will try and make this short & sweet.


I planned on meeting a friend @ the show. We were supposed to meet on
the right side of the lawn. So I brought my equipment with me on my trip
into work in the morning. Then on the way home I would stop off at The
Arts Center. It's like 15 minutes from my apartment.

So I leave work a little earlier to try an get a decent parking spot. I
got there at a decent time. But that was not good enough. The place was
packed!!!

I had to weed through some cars and wound up veering on to the grass
where some other cars were parked. I was far from the venue but not that
far.

So I did not have a ticket but they were still selling them at the door.
So I decided to moosie around to see who was who. I

I did not sell anything at this show. No stickers or shirts or something
like that.
I have always done that in the past.
It was always the Allman Brothers and The Grateful Dead. For some reason
those fans love to tailgate by their cars and buy cheap stuff.

So I was walking up and down the isle's. I did not see anybody that I
knew. That was strange. Usually I know somebody.

It seemed like it was a very young crowd in the parking lot. Quite a
few Jersey girls running around with skimpy tops on.

I walked and walked and I still saw nobody I knew.

As I was walking around I held my finger in the air looking for a
ticket. Got some drunk comments from some of the hecklers in the isles.

I finally found one for $20.00.
That was decent. So I went to see if there was some sort of a Shakedown
Street.
I walked way over to the other side of the Parkway to see what was what.
I walked and walked and there was nothing there. There was no Shakedown
St!

So while I was over there I figure I would buy a beer because I was
parched! I was looking for some choice beers. No such luck! These people
were drinking shit beer. I was amazed. Nothing but Budweiser, Bud Lite
and all other kinds of crap beer. I was stunned. They were pounding that
stuff down like water. Fuel for their buzz.

I then walked by a guy who had a carton of two kinds of beer, He had Bud
Lite and Rolling Rock. The Rolling Rock looked good to me. I said to the
guy I'll buy a beer from you! He looked at me and said here I will give
you one.

He then handed me a cold Bud Lite.
I looked at the beer and then at the guy and said no thanks and handed
it back to him. I said/asked to him again, I will buy one from you. He
then looked in his cooler and he only had 2 Rolling Rocks in there. He
said I don't have enough. He then handed me one from the carton that he
had in the trunk. It was semi cold. I said great, ya want the money. He
said no thanks enjoy.

So I went on my way and enjoyed a semi cold Rolling Rock beer. It was
the best I could do. It sure tasted better than that Bud Lite beer. Why
are they drinking that stuff? I just don't know.

I walked back to my car and got my stuff and headed in. There was some
sort of a search as I went in. No big deal I had nothing to hide.

I wanted to try a different place to tape on the lawn. A friend of mine
suggested that we try and tape on the extreme right of the lawn. There
was not as many people there and the sound was excellent.

I also set up behind one of those pillars that hold up the shell that
covers the amphitheater. I thought that was a decent spot. I walked
across the lawn while *moe* was playing to see if there was a difference
in the sound. There was none. I guess it was a matter of preference.

I set up my equipment and all seems to work out. So as I am watching
*moe* I feel some beer splash me on he back of my head. I turn around
and the next thing I know there is a brew ha ha going on behind me.
These two guys are going at it right next to me.

My mic stand almost knocks over and one of my microphones fell off it's
holder and it was just swinging there.

Beer splashed on my bag of recording stuff. Luckily I had it protected.
I kinda know about this scene and with this drunken, beer swilling
Allman Brothers crowd. You have to be prepared for the worst.

So As they were fighting I was moving my stuff away from the situation.
At least 10 feet due left. The guy who was fighting was obviously DRUNK!
Go figure?

So I re-set up in another spot.

I thought that was a good place to set up shop. Lord know I was
surrounded by way too young NJ girls smoking their cigarettes and
drinking their $7.00 Bud Lite beers in the plastic bottles bought inside
and talking on their cell phones all through out the show.

So the Allman Brother (singular) and the rest of the band take the
stage.
Warren and Derek show up.
That sounds good to me.
They all jockey into their positions.
The crowd goes wild. My tape is rolling and I set my levels and I am
ready.

So they bust out with a tune
(one way out) and it sounds pretty good.

Then I notice something strange, they sound like they are jamming. They
truly do. But the thing I noticed is, that they are jamming, but with no
feeling. I am sure it was played with feeling in it but I couldn't hear
the feeling. The sound was a constant same level through out the whole
show. Sure there was a lead or two, but you just couldn't feel it. I am
wondering if it might have something to do with the *Instant Live* doing
their thing.

Can you picture what I am/was hearing?
It is/was like a limiter was put over the whole sound system in the
venue. Even the drum solo was the same level. Had to be the way they are
doing the instant live thing. I don't know?

So as the band is playing I am watching and listening, then I feel a tap
on my shoulder and it is my 2nd cousin. I couldn't believe it. Out of
all the people on the lawn, and he was able to find me. I did not know
he was going to be there. It was good to see him. He said that he saw
the mic stand on the lawn and thought it would be me on the extreme
right and not in the middle where the other tapers were.
We enjoyed a lil' somthin, somthin and talked quietly while sitting and
enjoying the music.

It was a nice night weather wise.
No rain. Just right temp and no wind. Perfect recording weather. So as
my cuz and I were talking he told me that he bought a ticket before the
show for the *Instant Live* CD after the show. He said he couldn't wait
for me to give it to him.

So as we are talking I told him that I wanted to hear my favorite song
by the Brothers, (mountain jam). I love that tune. My cuz said that is
what they are playing now. I thought they were noodling around but it
was the start of the Mountain Jam song. Woo hooo I was happy. I love
that song. It was a 20 minute version. I loved it. In fact I am
listening to this show as I type this and it sounds freaking great!

There is a cool image that I captured on the tape. But this constant
level thing bothers me sort of. They are taking leads but you just can't
feel it. I then turned to my cousin and said, the band ain't got no
heart with out some Dick. So my cuz turns to me and says it's the next
best thing. Uh yeah, I guess so?

Then one of the guys from *moe* came out to jam on a song (what drives
men crazy?). That was a good one.

Warren did an acappella song for one of the encore's. That was a good
one.
He still has a good voice.

All and all it was a good show.

My cousin stayed with me until the show was over. He waited while I
packed up my stuff.

We then walked outside and he had to wait on the line to get the CD that
he paid for. There must have been over 200 people in line. He had to go
all the way to the end of the line. There were tons of people there. I
thought it would take forever, but once they got the CD's out they the
line moved pretty quickly. He was out of that line in 10 minutes flat.

They get $25.00 for the 3 CD package. It is all labelled and boxed ready
to go. There are no song list on them. Maybe they are catching onto the
booie way of thinking about labelling CD's?

$25.00 x 200 is a nice chunk of change.

I got into my car and took off for my journey ride home. It took me
about 20 minutes. I stopped in at the 7-eleven and picked up a pepper
turkey with cheese for when I got home. I got the sandwich and figure I
would d get another one just in case I got more hungry.

Then before got home I stopped I went into the bar and got a six pack
of Samuel Adams (Boston Lager) to drink. I like that beer. Funny thing
is I put the six pack on the counter where all the other so called studs
are drinking their Lite beers. They give me the ol' stare, like what
kind of crap beer am I buying.

I get the six to go and I am on my way. I make it home fairly quick.

I had a good time. Wish I could have went with someone, but no big deal.

Short & sweet, yeah right ; )

Once I start I can't stop.


That was my 8/23/2005 Allman Brothers experience.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

A few booie experiences worth mentioning.

Allman Bros fans love there beer and whiskey to the extreme.

Warren & Derek are a good combination.

I hate shows that have a limiter on their sound systems. There is a
feeling that is lost. To some people that can hear it, or that even
care. Most people (general public) would not even notice or care.

My recording came out perfect.
I am offering it up as a b&p is anybody want's it. Is that against the
Allman Brothers rule? This is a free offer.

That turkey sandwich and beer after the show tasted great. I only had
one beer the whole night, and that was the Rolling Rock before the show.

You gotta hear this Mountain Jam song.
It is a FATTY one.

moe was pretty good. It is tempting me on going to the moe down coming
up. Anyone hear ever go to one?

People talking on their phones through out the whole show is the new way
of showing your ethic's of attending concerts.

There was no shakedown at this venue.

The show was over and then they played some hous music. My cousin said
to me that song was called *Little Martha* from the *Eat a Peach* album?
That was a good song. Was that Duane 's song?
I let my recorder go a little longer to get that part of the show.

This was the only show that I went to
this summer. This summer did not exciete me as other past summers.

How do those *instant live* CD's sund. Is there a limiter on those CD's?
I am sure it is on there.

My equipment was working fine that night.

I will offer it up as a b&p on DVD
(audio) only.

It came out pretty good.


booie.........


I still miss Dicky Betts in the Allman Brothers Band. They lost a
certain feeling when they lost their Dick!



If you read this far and are interested:

Allman Brothers 8/23/2005 b&p
NJ Arts Center in Homdel, NJ
(no corporate name here)

DVD audio only.
This whole show will fit on one DVD.
How sweet it is.

A little bit of flapping of the gums on
the disc, but you are at a party.


Talk to ya soon
booie.......

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Have you checked these sites out today?
http://www.jambase.com
http://www.jambands.com
http://www.jambase.com/festivals
.

Find out where your favorite band is playing.
Pollstar (the concert hotwire) http://pollstar.com
Dave Kelly
2005-08-28 20:22:06 UTC
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Post by ba ba booie
My Allman Brothers 8/23/2005
Arts Center experience in Homdel, NJ.
Keeriste!
I'd hate to see the long version!
I love the recap at the end of this kids posts...
I had forgotten ALL about the 7-11 turkey sammich.
The Iron Muffin
2005-08-29 01:55:32 UTC
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Post by Dave Kelly
Post by ba ba booie
My Allman Brothers 8/23/2005
Arts Center experience in Homdel, NJ.
Keeriste!
I'd hate to see the long version!
I love the recap at the end of this kids posts...
I had forgotten ALL about the 7-11 turkey sammich.
HEY!

Don't you be badmouthin' the sammich...
--
The Iron Muffin

DEAD FREAKS UNITE

Who are you? Where are you?

How are you?
Joe
2005-08-29 15:01:30 UTC
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Post by The Iron Muffin
Post by Dave Kelly
I had forgotten ALL about the 7-11 turkey sammich.
HEY!
Don't you be badmouthin' the sammich...
Just like the Allman Brothers without Dickey Betts isn't really the
Allman Brothers, a turkey sandwich at 7-11 isn't really food.

Joe
Brad Greer
2005-08-29 15:02:52 UTC
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Post by Joe
Post by The Iron Muffin
Post by Dave Kelly
I had forgotten ALL about the 7-11 turkey sammich.
HEY!
Don't you be badmouthin' the sammich...
Just like the Allman Brothers without Dickey Betts isn't really the
Allman Brothers, a turkey sandwich at 7-11 isn't really food.
Joe
HRYK, on both counts.
dearmeyer®
2005-08-29 02:13:42 UTC
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Post by ba ba booie
Then one of the guys from *moe* came out to jam on a song (what drives
men crazy?). That was a good one.
You don't mean The Same Thing do you?
band beyond description
2005-08-29 04:02:10 UTC
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Post by ba ba booie
moe was pretty good. It is tempting me on going to the moe down coming
up. Anyone hear ever go to one?
on a Japan-related note, the Japanese band Big Frog say they'll be at
moe.down; worth checking out if you happen to be around when their set
happens...

9/3
sat. ~Groovers in USA~
@Turin, NY, USA
"moe. down"

http://www.bigfrog.jp/bigfrog-k-works/the-band-english.html
--
Peace,
~ Steve
ba ba booie
2005-08-29 06:40:45 UTC
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***@webtv.net
(ba=A0ba=A0booie) wrote:
My Allman Brothers 8/23/2005
Arts Center experience in Homdel, NJ.

I will try and make this short & sweet.
<snip>
That was my 8/23/2005 Allman Brothers experience.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A few booie experiences worth mentioning.

I forgot to mention that I noticed that Derek Trucks never used a pick
while playing his guitar through out the whole show. I asked my cousin
if that is hard to do. He said yes, the volume of the guitar has to be
turned up more than usual.

Is this the way Derek plays his guitar?

I thought that was very interesting. Derek's fingers must have calluses
all over them where he does not feel a thing? He must be doing something
right?
It sounds pretty good!


booie...........

.
.
.
Have you checked these sites out today?
http://www.jambase.com
http://www.jambands.com
http://www.jambase.com/festivals
.

Find out where your favorite band is playing.
Pollstar (the concert hotwire) http://pollstar.com
Nick's Picks
2005-08-29 11:58:43 UTC
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Booie..
that constant "volume" phenonima you mention is the over use of
compressers by the sound guy.
compressors, used in all live gigs on big PAs (and small ones) compress
the dynamic range, making the difference between quiter and louder
sounds much less.. the result is that you appear to hear more detail
...but you loose the sonics big time.
Dickey Betts's sound guy ruined a show last week w/this. the .wav
files from my recording look liked they are all clipped..even though I
was peaking at around -4db to -2db (clipping would be over 0db). the
files look like they are all squared off. But, the sound is good.

Glad your recording came out nice.
:)
DB
2005-08-29 17:01:22 UTC
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Post by ba ba booie
My Allman Brothers 8/23/2005
Arts Center experience in Homdel, NJ.
I will try and make this short & sweet.
<snip>
That was my 8/23/2005 Allman Brothers experience.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A few booie experiences worth mentioning.
I forgot to mention that I noticed that Derek Trucks never used a pick
while playing his guitar through out the whole show. I asked my cousin
if that is hard to do. He said yes, the volume of the guitar has to be
turned up more than usual.
Is this the way Derek plays his guitar?
I thought that was very interesting. Derek's fingers must have calluses
all over them where he does not feel a thing? He must be doing something
right?
It sounds pretty good!
booie...........
Derek never uses a pick with either the ABB or the DTB. He is one hell
of a guitar player and I don't know about calluses, but I am sure that
you do not want to get on the wrong end of his fingernails. They are
probably insured for 100's of thousands of dollars. I have a friend who
is an excellent finger picker and he has his nails professionally done
to keep them in shape.

If you have not checked out Derek's band, you should. Very different
sound from what the Allmans do, but great nonetheless. The DTB will be
at Town Hall in NYC on 11/12 and I am sure that there are other dates in
the NJ/Pa. area.

DB
colonialacres
2005-08-29 20:20:35 UTC
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Arts Center experience in Homdel, NJ. I will try and make this short &
sweet. <snip> That was my 8/23/2005 Allman Brothers experience.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A few booie experiences worth mentioning. I forgot to
mention that I noticed that Derek Trucks never used a pick
while playing his guitar through out the whole show. I asked my cousin
if that is hard to do. He said yes, the volume of the guitar has to be
turned up more than usual. Is this the way Derek plays his guitar? I
thought that was very interesting. Derek's fingers must have calluses
all over them where he does not feel a thing? He must be doing something
right? It sounds pretty good! booie...........
Derek never uses a pick with either the ABB or the DTB. He is one hell of
a guitar player and I don't know about calluses, but I am sure that you do
not want to get on the wrong end of his fingernails. They are probably
insured for 100's of thousands of dollars. I have a friend who is an
excellent finger picker and he has his nails professionally done to keep
them in shape.
Duane Allman didn't use a pick either.
Nick's Picks
2005-08-29 11:51:55 UTC
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Post by ba ba booie
My Allman Brothers 8/23/2005
Arts Center experience in Homdel, NJ.
I wanted to try a different place to tape on the lawn. A friend of mine
suggested that we try and tape on the extreme right of the lawn. There
was not as many people there and the sound was excellent.
I also set up behind one of those pillars that hold up the shell that
covers the amphitheater. I thought that was a decent spot. I walked
across the lawn while *moe* was playing to see if there was a difference
in the sound. There was none. I guess it was a matter of preference.
in these large shed type venues, the lawn is a MONO sum from the stereo
spread that is only available down at the main stacks.
so, anywhere on the lawn will always sound the same, pretty much.
fwiw...
Brad Greer
2005-08-29 13:23:53 UTC
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Post by ba ba booie
Allman Brothers 8/23/2005 b&p
NJ Arts Center in Homdel, NJ
(no corporate name here)
That would be "Garden State" Arts Center (not NJ) - get your
non-corporate names right, Booie!
Joe
2005-08-29 15:04:17 UTC
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Post by Brad Greer
That would be "Garden State" Arts Center (not NJ) - get your
non-corporate names right, Booie!
New Jersey. Garden State or Toxic State? You decide.

Joe
Jeff
2005-08-29 18:59:55 UTC
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Post by Joe
New Jersey. Garden State or Toxic State? You decide.
Pssst...Hey Joe, you might want to zip up, your ignorance is showing.
Rogues Island's finest
2005-08-29 20:03:41 UTC
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Post by Jeff
Post by Joe
New Jersey. Garden State or Toxic State? You decide.
Pssst...Hey Joe, you might want to zip up, your ignorance is showing.
96.3% of the time.

Mark
bigamps
2005-08-29 20:29:54 UTC
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Post by Rogues Island's finest
Post by Jeff
Post by Joe
New Jersey. Garden State or Toxic State? You decide.
Pssst...Hey Joe, you might want to zip up, your ignorance is showing.
96.3% of the time.
This time was one of the other 3.7%, shitwit.
bigamps
2005-08-29 20:29:00 UTC
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Post by Jeff
Post by Joe
New Jersey. Garden State or Toxic State? You decide.
Pssst...Hey Joe, you might want to zip up, your ignorance is showing.
What ignorance?

per http://www.scorecard.org/env-releases/land/rank-states.tcl

EPA superfund sites in NJ: 116, ranks *first* in number of superfund
sites per state.

California comes in second at 98, but California is about 18.77 times as
big as NJ in square miles.

Note that at
http://www.scorecard.org/env-releases/land/

you can't even see the borders of NJ because of the superfund site symbols.
Joe
2005-08-29 20:31:54 UTC
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Post by bigamps
Post by Jeff
Post by Joe
New Jersey. Garden State or Toxic State? You decide.
Pssst...Hey Joe, you might want to zip up, your ignorance is showing.
What ignorance?
per http://www.scorecard.org/env-releases/land/rank-states.tcl
Hateful Mark Hitchins, aka The Nantucket Nitwit, will not and cannot let
facts get in the way of an anti-Joe rant.

He's obsessed with me.

Joe
Rogues Island's finest
2005-08-29 20:39:19 UTC
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Post by Joe
Post by bigamps
Post by Jeff
Post by Joe
New Jersey. Garden State or Toxic State? You decide.
Pssst...Hey Joe, you might want to zip up, your ignorance is showing.
What ignorance?
per http://www.scorecard.org/env-releases/land/rank-states.tcl
Hateful Mark Hitchins, aka The Nantucket Nitwit, will not and cannot let
facts get in the way of an anti-Joe rant.
You spout more hate in one afternoon then I've put forth on this
newsgroup in 10 years, Joey boy. And now you've got a little helper,
congrats.
Post by Joe
He's obsessed with me.
More like amused, in a kid with an ice cream cone on his forehead sorta
way. I think of you every time I see that picture.

Mark
wyeknot
2005-08-29 20:54:21 UTC
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Post by Rogues Island's finest
Post by Joe
He's obsessed with me.
More like amused, in a kid with an ice cream cone on his forehead sorta
way. I think of you every time I see that picture.
What about this picture?

http://w00ks.org/gallery/upload/afe

Matt
Rogues Island's finest
2005-08-29 21:06:42 UTC
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Post by wyeknot
Post by Rogues Island's finest
Post by Joe
He's obsessed with me.
More like amused, in a kid with an ice cream cone on his forehead sorta
way. I think of you every time I see that picture.
What about this picture?
http://w00ks.org/gallery/upload/afe
That works too.

Mark
Joe
2005-08-29 21:20:01 UTC
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<SNIP>

Think of it. Some rmgd'ers go their entire life without having a single
Usenet Stalker. And, I have two of them.

Joe
leftie
2005-08-29 21:25:33 UTC
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<SNIP>
Think of it. Some rmgd'ers go their entire life without having a single
Usenet Stalker. And, I have two of them.
Hey! Are you bragging or complaining? ;-)
Joe
2005-08-29 21:30:18 UTC
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Post by Joe
Think of it. Some rmgd'ers go their entire life without having a single
Usenet Stalker. And, I have two of them.
Hey! Are you bragging or complaining? ;-)
Well, Leftie, think how much more important you'd feel with a couple of
Usenet Stalkers.

What am I bid for a Usenet Stalker?

They both know how to spell, so keep that in mind when you bid.

Joe
Olompali4
2005-08-30 00:26:12 UTC
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For Derek Trucks, the 26-year-old guitar virtuoso for the Allman
Brothers Band, the first music he remembers purchasing as a kid was a
blues compilation tape at a truck stop.

"It was one of those five-dollars, truck-stop blues compilations that
you get at the cash register," Trucks remembers. "Those were the first
record shops I hit up. My music shopping started out on the road."

Howlin' Wolf, Bobby Blue Bland and B.B. King made up much of that first
compilation tape that Trucks bought, but he eventually became
interested in the musicians that inspired those artists, leading him to
the blues music of the Mississippi Delta and the songs of Son House,
Bukka White, Blind Willie Johnson and Skip James.

"The Complete Bukka White is pretty essential to have as far as I'm
concerned," Trucks says. "I ended up finding the guitar that he
recorded all that stuff with a few years back - it's a National
Steel. Bukka was such a unique guy - he also pitched in the Negro
Leagues, was a professional boxer and went to prison something like 20
times. He was B.B. King's older cousin, and B.B. always said that his
vibrato was an attempt to copy Bukka's slide sound."

As a child prodigy, Trucks started playing the guitar at the age of
nine, had his first paying gig at age 11 and formed his first band, a
blues trio, a year later. By age 15, he had sat in with his Uncle Butch
and the Allman Brothers Band. Interestingly enough, one of Trucks'
earliest influences was another child prodigy - Little Stevie Wonder.

"It started with Innervisions, but I ended up being a junkie just like
everyone else," Trucks confesses. "You end up buying every Stevie album
up through the cheesy '80s records, 'cause there's always that one
track that's worth the ten bucks. Those great records from the '70s
- Music of My Mind, Songs in the Key of Life, Talking Book,
Fullfillingness' First Finale, Innervisions and even up through Journey
Through the Secret Life of Plants - are all just amazing. Almost
every tune is great. People would cut off a limb to write just one tune
like those. No one should be able to be on top of their game for that
long - it's not fair to the rest of us."

If blues music was Trucks' first love, then jazz was a close second.
And just like his introduction to the blues, Trucks first encountered
jazz music on a tour bus riding down the road in Colorado one late
night.

"About ten or twelve years ago, I was out on the road with Jeff Sipe
and Todd Smallie, my bass player, as a trio," he says. "Jeff had
brought a bunch of those old Blue Note records out on the road with him
to listen to on the bus. It was one of the first times I really ever
got high, and that music just blew me away, man. I probably have more
than 200 Blue Note records at my house now. And it's all due to Jeff.
He ruined me from that day forward."

Of all the great jazz recordings, Trucks considers two albums recorded
in the late 1950s the Holy Grail of the genre - Miles Davis' Kind of
Blue and Cannonball Adderly's Something Else.

"Something Else and Kind of Blue are like the brother and sister of
jazz records from the late '50s. Something Else was one of those
records that we listened to every day in the van for like a year. We
burnt it out completely," he says. "It's interesting, 'cause I got
into Coltrane because I saw some footage of him and Miles playing after
recording Kind of Blue. Just seeing Coltrane play, I could tell
something was up. It was all blues music for me up to that point, so
that's what changed it. Between Cannonball and Trane on Kind of Blue,
Cannonball on Something Else and then Coltrane on A Love Supreme, I was
done, hooked for life."

If there has been one singular guitarist that has influenced Trucks the
most, it's probably Charlie Christian. Trucks praises Christian
throughout the liner notes of the guitarist's The Genius of the
Electric Guitar box set, even going so far as admitting that his infant
son was named after the jazz guitar legend. While the box set is a
staple in his collection, Trucks digs live Christian the most.

"There's a CD called Live Sessions at Minton's Playhouse. I'm pretty
sure its Charlie, Monk, Dizzy and Roy Haynes on drums," Trucks recalls.
"Charlie Christian is just burning everybody's ass. Dizzy sounds young
and kind of out of tune. He hadn't got his shit together yet. Monk
sounds broken like he always does, but he's not Monk yet. But Charlie
Christian is just a fully realized human being at that point. It's not
a great recording, but when he plays, it's just so intense. He plays
all these amazing horn lines on the guitar, and no one had done that to
that point. The first time I heard that record, it was like the first
time I heard Howlin' Wolf. The sound just jumped out of the speakers
and choked me."

As Trucks puts me through my paces in Used Jazz, he stops at Elvin
Jones and smiles. When the young guitarist signed with Columbia Records
a few years back, the label executives asked him if there was anyone he
wanted to record with. Almost instantly, Trucks replied with two names
- Wayne Shorter and Elvin Jones. The label booked the recording
session with Jones, but due to conflicting schedules, the meeting never
happened. Ironically, shortly after Jones passed away in May 2004,
Trucks was shopping on Ebay for a gift for his younger brother and
aspiring drummer, Duane Trucks, when he came upon a remarkable find.

"The first thing that pops up was the tympanis Elvin Jones played on A
Love Supreme, which he owned for like 50 years," Trucks says with a
laugh. "Zildjian, through his wife, Keiko, were getting rid of them.
They'd been up for auction for like 10 days and no one had bid on them.
So I bid and won them, and the next day they were shipped to my house."

"They were sent in these two road cases that had "Elvin Jones - Jazz
Machine" stenciled on all five panels. Two beautiful Ludwig tympanis
from the mid- to late-1950s that he played on A Love Supreme, a poster
signed by Elvin and the stencils they used to stencil the road cases,"
he adds. "I was in shock, but my brother freaked out. He lost it. I
mean, shit, Elvin Jones was one of the top five jazz drummers of all
time and played on arguably the most important jazz record ever waxed.
But still, no one on Ebay knew who he was. If it was something from
some bullshit celebrity, they'd be all over it. I feel like that kind
of stuff should be in the Smithsonian. Hell, I might end up shipping it
there. Put 'em in a museum after we record with them a few times."

If the blues was his first influence and jazz his second, Eastern
music, particularly Indian music, is definitely the third major
influence on Derek Trucks as an artist and Jeff Sipe, aka Apartment
Q258, is to blame once again. Whenever the teenage Trucks was in
Atlanta, he'd make a point to stop by Sipe's house and listen to the
drummer's collection of Indian music.

"I was at that stage, at around 15 or 16 years old, where you start
seeing through all the bullshit that people have been feeding you,"
Trucks says. "I wanted things to be more serious, so when I saw guys
like Ali Akbar Khan and Zakir Hussain, I was like, 'That's it. These
guys are playing like their life depends on it.' I heard about the
stories about how much time and energy these guys put into their music
and how much they respect what they're doing. It wasn't like these 20
year old rock musician that are just like, 'Fuck everything.' It was
religious to them, it is religious to them. Ali Akar Khan has said in
interviews in the past that music was like air, water and shelter in
his house growing up - you didn't have to ask about, you didn't have
to explain it. It was essential to life. That was really appealing to
me, especially at that time when I really wanted to dig in and get into
my own music."

"Unfortunately, a lot of musicians' heroes are people who didn't make
it to 25, 30 years old. Guys like Charlie Christian, Clifford Brown,
Duane Allman, Jaco Pastorious, Hendrix, Coltrane, all these guys were
similar in that they were all so much better than everyone else at the
time and they all seemed to die around the same age. It almost seems
like these guys, whether they consciously knew it or not, realized that
their time was limited. They burned the candle at both ends, man, and
then they were out. I want to have a long, long career and not turn out
like so many of the musicians I admire. Guys like Zakir, Ali Akbar Khan
and some of the other Eastern musicians have inspired me to make music
that matters and continue to develop as a musician as I get older. I
see what they have done with their own careers, their own music, and it
just makes me work harder to be the best that I can be."
From jambands.com
Written by Andy Tennile
Rogues Island's finest
2005-08-29 21:27:15 UTC
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<SNIP>
Think of it. Some rmgd'ers go their entire life without having a single
Usenet Stalker. And, I have two of them.
I found another better picture of ya Joe!

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Mark
band beyond description
2005-08-30 00:40:17 UTC
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Post by Rogues Island's finest
More like amused, in a kid with an ice cream cone on his forehead sorta
way. I think of you every time I see that picture.
Mark
you say that like Ice Cream Kids are bad things.
--
Peace,
Steve
ba ba booie
2005-08-30 10:48:02 UTC
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My Allman Brothers 8/23/2005
Arts Center experience.


Joe wrote:
New Jersey. Garden State or Toxic State? You decide.


Jeff wrote:
Pssst...Hey Joe, you might want to zip up, your ignorance is showing.


***@even.louder.net
(bigamps) wrote:
What ignorance?
per http://www.scorecard.org/env-releases/land/rank-states.tcl

EPA superfund sites in NJ: 116, ranks *first* in number of superfund
sites per state.
California comes in second at 98, but California is about 18.77 times as
big as NJ in square miles.

Note that at
http://www.scorecard.org/env-releases/land/
you can't even see the borders of NJ because of the superfund site
symbols.


bbb wrote:
That is a scarey site!
My luck,
I work in the worst county on the list!

The worst county in the worst state in the country? Something don't
sound/smell right here.

Maybe that's why the sun looks
orange so much ; )

If & when I can see it through the haze.


booie.......

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.
.
Have you checked these sites out today?
http://www.jambase.com
http://www.jambands.com
http://www.jambase.com/festivals
.

Find out where your favorite band is playing.
Pollstar (the concert hotwire) http://pollstar.com
neurodancer
2005-08-30 14:46:16 UTC
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Post by bigamps
Post by Jeff
Post by Joe
New Jersey. Garden State or Toxic State? You decide.
Pssst...Hey Joe, you might want to zip up, your ignorance is showing.
What ignorance?
per http://www.scorecard.org/env-releases/land/rank-states.tcl
EPA superfund sites in NJ: 116, ranks *first* in number of superfund
sites per state.
California comes in second at 98, but California is about 18.77 times as
big as NJ in square miles.
Note that at
http://www.scorecard.org/env-releases/land/
you can't even see the borders of NJ because of the superfund site symbols.
You're right damnit! I'm moving to North Dakota (and I don't even live
in New Jersey).
ND

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