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breaking the rules
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Mark-T
2022-09-25 00:36:45 UTC
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Every song writer knows that the cadence of the
lyrics must match the natural cadence of the
language. And the rhythm has to enforce that.

For instance, if 'Sunday' appears, and the singer is
forced to pronounce SunDAY, that will hurt the listener's ears.

But occasionally, this rule is breakable.
As example, Irving Berlin's "White Christmas".
In natural speech, one would stress:
"I'm DREAMING of a white CHRISTMAS."

Not heavy stresses, but still there, subtle. But actually,
the song is performed as:
"I'M dreaming of a WHITE Christmas."

And it works, beautifully!
Interviewer: "Is that the best song you ever wrote?"
Berlin: "It's the best song ANYBODY ever wrote."

So, quiz time, gang: can you find any such examples
in the GDead opus?


Mark
Band Beyond Youall
2022-09-25 07:59:36 UTC
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Post by Mark-T
Every song writer knows that the cadence of the
lyrics must match the natural cadence of the
language. And the rhythm has to enforce that.
For instance, if 'Sunday' appears, and the singer is
forced to pronounce SunDAY, that will hurt the listener's ears.
But occasionally, this rule is breakable.
As example, Irving Berlin's "White Christmas".
"I'm DREAMING of a white CHRISTMAS."
Not heavy stresses, but still there, subtle. But actually,
"I'M dreaming of a WHITE Christmas."
And it works, beautifully!
Interviewer: "Is that the best song you ever wrote?"
Berlin: "It's the best song ANYBODY ever wrote."
So, quiz time, gang: can you find any such examples
in the GDead opus?
Mark
“His job is to shed light 💡… not to MASTER”


Probably there’re a lot more examples, particularly in the
irregular-cadence Hunter and Weir/Barlow canon, but I haven’t had enough
coffee yet to think more deeply on this topic…
Mark-T
2022-09-26 17:50:52 UTC
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Post by Mark-T
Every song writer knows that the cadence of the
lyrics must match the natural cadence of the
language. And the rhythm has to enforce that.
For instance, if 'Sunday' appears, and the singer is
forced to pronounce SunDAY, that will hurt the listener's ears.
But occasionally, this rule is breakable.
As example, Irving Berlin's "White Christmas".
"I'm DREAMING of a white CHRISTMAS."
Not heavy stresses, but still there, subtle. But actually,
"I'M dreaming of a WHITE Christmas."
And it works, beautifully!
can you find any such examples in the GDead opus?
“His job is to shed light 💡… not to MASTER”
In speech: "His job is to shed LIGHT... "
Sing: "His job is TO SHED light..."

Yes, that's an example.
Acceptable, though not brilliant, I'd say -
Post by Band Beyond Youall
Probably there’re a lot more examples, particularly in the
irregular-cadence Hunter and Weir/Barlow canon, but I haven’t had enough
coffee yet to think more deeply on this topic…
A couple of cases in Jack Straw -

Mark
Mark-T
2022-09-29 18:33:57 UTC
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Every song writer knows that the cadence of the
lyrics must match the natural cadence of the
language. And the rhythm has to enforce that.
But occasionally, this rule is breakable.
As example, Irving Berlin's "White Christmas".
"I'm DREAMING of a white CHRISTMAS."
Not heavy stresses, but still there, subtle. But actually,
"I'M dreaming of a WHITE Christmas."
And it works, beautifully!
can you find any such examples in the GDead opus?
Probably there’re a lot more examples, particularly in the
irregular-cadence Hunter and Weir/Barlow canon, but I haven’t had enough
coffee yet to think more deeply on this topic…
A couple of cases in Jack Straw -
"Catch the DEtroit Lightning out of Santa Fe"
(note the irregular stress)
(correctly pronounced:)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Fr-Le_D%C3%A9troit.ogg

"WE can share the women..."

Scarlet Begonias:
"I knew right away she was not like other girls"
(emphasis on "I")

Mark
bmoore
2022-09-29 20:00:55 UTC
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Every song writer knows that the cadence of the
lyrics must match the natural cadence of the
language. And the rhythm has to enforce that.
But occasionally, this rule is breakable.
As example, Irving Berlin's "White Christmas".
"I'm DREAMING of a white CHRISTMAS."
Not heavy stresses, but still there, subtle. But actually,
"I'M dreaming of a WHITE Christmas."
And it works, beautifully!
can you find any such examples in the GDead opus?
Probably there’re a lot more examples, particularly in the
irregular-cadence Hunter and Weir/Barlow canon, but I haven’t had enough
coffee yet to think more deeply on this topic…
A couple of cases in Jack Straw -
"Catch the DEtroit Lightning out of Santa Fe"
(note the irregular stress)
(correctly pronounced:)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Fr-Le_D%C3%A9troit.ogg
DEtroit is more of an old-timer pronunciation. Canadians have been known to say it that way it too.

Knew an old bartender from KC, Navy veteran, who always talked about how he served on the DEtroit at Pearl Harbor.
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"WE can share the women..."
"I knew right away she was not like other girls"
(emphasis on "I")
Mark
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