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Buck Dancers Choice
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junter522@123.net
2011-03-10 13:34:52 UTC
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I have been thinking of this and it reminds me of like after WW2 men
would go into a dancehall and pay a lady a buck for a dance.I have read
what David says about in the the annotated but this could be what Hunter
was speakin of.Maybe????Gary
John Doherty
2011-03-10 14:01:28 UTC
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  I have been thinking of this and it reminds me of like after WW2 men
would go into a dancehall and pay a lady a buck for a dance.I have read
what David says about in the the annotated but this could be what Hunter
was speakin of.Maybe????Gary
The last record from David Bromberg covered the fiddle tune by that
name.

The origins precede WW2. According tot he annotated Dead:

"buck-and-wing n, ... Also buck (dance) ... A lively dance usually
performed by one person.
1968 Stearns Jazz Dance 191, The wordWing was used to describe a
combination known as Buck and Wing--the general designation for tap
dance (and almost anything else) at the turn of the century.
Introduced on the New Yorkstage in 1880 by James McIntyre, the Buck
and Wing began toswing...and launched a new style of Negro-derived
dancing.
1977 Nevell Time to Dance 169sAppalachians, Buck-dancing is the
simplest and yet themost enigmatic kind of southern mountain dancing.
Essentially, buckdancing is a dance for one but can be for more than
one; the dance itself involves nothing more than moving your feet in
time to the music. The origins of buckdancing are unclear. The name
probably came from the Indians who may have had a ceremonial dance
danced by a brave costumed as a buck deer."
junter522@123.net
2011-03-10 14:29:37 UTC
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I have been thinking of this and it reminds me of like after WW2 men
would go into a dancehall and pay a lady a buck for a dance.I have read
what David says about in the the annotated but this could be what Hunter
was speakin of.Maybe????Gary
The last record from David Bromberg covered the fiddle tune by that
name.
"buck-and-wing n, ... Also buck (dance) ... A lively dance usually
performed by one person.
1968 Stearns Jazz Dance 191, The wordWing was used to describe a
combination known as Buck and Wing--the general designation for tap
dance (and almost anything else) at the turn of the century.
Introduced on the New Yorkstage in 1880 by James McIntyre, the Buck
and Wing began toswing...and launched a new style of Negro-derived
dancing.
1977 Nevell Time to Dance 169sAppalachians, Buck-dancing is the
simplest and yet themost enigmatic kind of southern mountain dancing.
Essentially, buckdancing is a dance for one but can be for more than
one; the dance itself involves nothing more than moving your feet in
time to the music. The origins of buckdancing are unclear. The name
probably came from the Indians who may have had a ceremonial dance
danced by a brave costumed as a buck deer."
Yea the album by Dave is awesome huh John.In years past I always
pictured the way a deer prances but I though it could have this meaning
also.How's Beverly still standing?Did you see the RAH of Georges passing
streamed??I know you have it on DVD.Peace man Gary
Yea I read the annotated Dead also just wondering.
junter522@123.net
2011-03-10 14:55:33 UTC
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I have been thinking of this and it reminds me of like after WW2 men
would go into a dancehall and pay a lady a buck for a dance.I have read
what David says about in the the annotated but this could be what Hunter
was speakin of.Maybe????Gary
The last record from David Bromberg covered the fiddle tune by that
name.
"buck-and-wing n, ... Also buck (dance) ... A lively dance usually
performed by one person.
1968 Stearns Jazz Dance 191, The wordWing was used to describe a
combination known as Buck and Wing--the general designation for tap
dance (and almost anything else) at the turn of the century.
Introduced on the New Yorkstage in 1880 by James McIntyre, the Buck
and Wing began toswing...and launched a new style of Negro-derived
dancing.
1977 Nevell Time to Dance 169sAppalachians, Buck-dancing is the
simplest and yet themost enigmatic kind of southern mountain dancing.
Essentially, buckdancing is a dance for one but can be for more than
one; the dance itself involves nothing more than moving your feet in
time to the music. The origins of buckdancing are unclear. The name
probably came from the Indians who may have had a ceremonial dance
danced by a brave costumed as a buck deer."
Yea the album by Dave is awesome huh John.In years past I always
pictured the way a deer prances but I though it could have this meaning
also.How's Beverly still standing?Did you see the RAH of Georges passing
streamed??I know you have it on DVD.Peace man Gary
Yea I read the annotated Dead also just wondering.
See I was thinking John The 1st days are the hardest days don't you
worry anymore.As in war's over.Frekin Hunter is so hard to
comprehend,there could be so many meanings to his lyrics only the Bart
knows.Peace Gary
marcman
2011-03-10 15:51:57 UTC
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See I was thinking John The 1st days are the hardest days don't you
worry anymore.As in war's over.Frekin Hunter is so hard to
comprehend,there could be so many meanings to his lyrics only the Bart
knows.Peace Gary
Simpson??
junter522@123.net
2011-03-10 15:58:34 UTC
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See I was thinking John The 1st days are the hardest days don't you
worry anymore.As in war's over.Frekin Hunter is so hard to
comprehend,there could be so many meanings to his lyrics only the Bart
knows.Peace Gary
Simpson??
lol
John Doherty
2011-03-10 17:07:41 UTC
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Post by ***@123.net
See I was thinking John The 1st days are the hardest days don't you
worry anymore.As in war's over.Frekin Hunter is so hard to
comprehend,there could be so many meanings to his lyrics only the Bart
knows.Peace Gary
Well, the "bart" ;-) himself prefers to leave some ambiguity. I
respect that, and have gown into different interpretations of his &
others' lyrics over the years. But here's my crack at it today, at
least his context of "buck dancer's choice""


"Well the first days are the hardest days, don't you worry any more,
cause when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door."

It sounds like an older & wiser speaker addressing a younger person
who's new to living on his own: Don't stress out about normal stuff--
the heavy shit happens when you least expect it.

"Think this through with me, let me know your mind,
Wo, oh, what I want to know, is are you kind?"

If you are at heart a decent person, the universe will largely return
that kindness. And if karma does not work out exactly that way, it's
still a good way to live.

"Its a buck dancers choice my friend; better take my advice.
You know all the rules by now and the fire from the ice."

You have the liberty to make any choice you want (like a buck dancer
who makes up any steps he cares to, not unlike free form dancers at
the shows of a certain band we enjoy, FWIW). Now that you wield this
power, and know good from evil, light from dark, use it wisely.
junter522@123.net
2011-03-10 18:16:42 UTC
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Post by John Doherty
Post by ***@123.net
See I was thinking John The 1st days are the hardest days don't you
worry anymore.As in war's over.Frekin Hunter is so hard to
comprehend,there could be so many meanings to his lyrics only the Bart
knows.Peace Gary
Well, the "bart" ;-) himself prefers to leave some ambiguity. I
respect that, and have gown into different interpretations of his&
others' lyrics over the years. But here's my crack at it today, at
least his context of "buck dancer's choice""
"Well the first days are the hardest days, don't you worry any more,
cause when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door."
It sounds like an older& wiser speaker addressing a younger person
who's new to living on his own: Don't stress out about normal stuff--
the heavy shit happens when you least expect it.
"Think this through with me, let me know your mind,
Wo, oh, what I want to know, is are you kind?"
If you are at heart a decent person, the universe will largely return
that kindness. And if karma does not work out exactly that way, it's
still a good way to live.
"Its a buck dancers choice my friend; better take my advice.
You know all the rules by now and the fire from the ice."
You have the liberty to make any choice you want (like a buck dancer
who makes up any steps he cares to, not unlike free form dancers at
the shows of a certain band we enjoy, FWIW). Now that you wield this
power, and know good from evil, light from dark, use it wisely.
Sounds good to me John.Hope it works,I do my best to try and not hurt
people unless they're at Best Buy.Gary
highgreenchilly
2011-03-11 14:00:50 UTC
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I think it might also have something to do with the Acid Tests.
Apparently everyone (even the band) had to pay a dollar. I love how a
single Hunter line can invoke many different images.

James Pablos
2011-03-10 17:56:45 UTC
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Post by John Doherty
  I have been thinking of this and it reminds me of like after WW2 men
would go into a dancehall and pay a lady a buck for a dance.I have read
what David says about in the the annotated but this could be what Hunter
was speakin of.Maybe????Gary
The last record from David Bromberg covered the fiddle tune by that
name.
"buck-and-wing n, ... Also buck (dance) ... A lively dance usually
performed by one person.
1968 Stearns Jazz Dance 191, The wordWing was used to describe a
combination known as Buck and Wing--the general designation for tap
dance (and almost anything else) at the turn of the century.
Introduced on the New Yorkstage in 1880 by James McIntyre, the Buck
and Wing began toswing...and launched a new style of Negro-derived
dancing.
ah the good old days. full of lively, Negro-derived dancing..
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